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== Lao laws do not belong here ==
 
Almost all of [//lo.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=%E0%BA%9E%E0%BA%B4%E0%BB%80%E0%BA%AA%E0%BA%94%3A%E0%BA%81%E0%BA%B2%E0%BA%99%E0%BA%9B%E0%BA%B0%E0%BA%81%E0%BA%AD%E0%BA%9A%E0%BA%AA%E0%BB%88%E0%BA%A7%E0%BA%99&contribs=user&target=Allbooks&namespace=&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&start=&end=2019-04-07 your recent contributions] to this wiki are the full texts of laws, which would be considered "out of scope" for this project (in other words, those pages do not belong in an encyclopedia like this one). If the content can be properly licensed (under the [[:en:Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|CC BY-SA 3.0 License]] and the [[:en:Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License|GFDL]] — which would include citing the source of the texts, which you have not done, as far as I can tell), then they belong in a Lao ''Wikisource'', not a Lao ''Wikipedia''. Unfortunately, the Wikimedia Foundation does not currently have a Lao Wikisource, either as a standalone wiki (i.e., "lo.wikisource.org") nor as a subwiki at the [[s:mul:|Multilingual Wikisource]]. Thus, it would appear that these contributions do not currently have a home at any Wikimedia content wiki. '''Please stop uploading these texts''' until you can find a wiki that will accept them. I have started a discussion about this matter at [[oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao laws]], since that wiki would be the most likely one to take these texts. I invite you to participate in that discussion. - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໐໑:໔໕, ໗ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
: Following a brief discussion at [[oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao laws]], it seems that the pages that you are creating here should instead be created at the Multilingual Wikisource (the wiki I just linked to). If you need help doing that, please ask either at that "Scriptorium" page or here on this talk page (since I am now "[[mw:Manual:Watchlist|watching]]" this page). - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໐໒:໑໒, ໙ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
: ຫຼັງຈາກການສົນທະນາສັ້ນໆຢູ່ [[oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao laws]], ມັນເບິ່ງຄືວ່າຫນ້າທີ່ທ່ານກໍາລັງສ້າງຢູ່ທີ່ນີ້ຄວນຈະຖືກສ້າງຂຶ້ນຢູ່ Multilingual Wikisource (wiki ທີ່ຂ້ອຍເຊື່ອມຕໍ່ກັບ). ຖ້າທ່ານຕ້ອງການການຊ່ວຍເຫຼືອດັ່ງກ່າວ, ກະລຸນາຖາມຢູ່ໃນຫນ້າ "Scriptorium" ຫຼືໃນຫນ້າສົນທະນານີ້ (ນັບຕັ້ງແຕ່ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າໃນປັດຈຸບັນ "[[mw:Manual:Watchlist|ການສັງເກດເບິ່ງ]]" ຫນ້ານີ້). [ນີ້ແມ່ນການແປຂອງຂໍ້ຄວາມທີ່ຜ່ານມາຂອງຂ້ອຍໂດຍ [https://translate.google.com/ Google Translate].] - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໒໓:໕໖, ໑໗ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
::As a note, [[User:Dcljr|Dcljr]], there is no copyright issue in this. The laws are public domain. [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Vermont|Vermont]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Vermont|talk]]) ໑໓:໐໖, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
::: [[User:Vermont|Vermont]]: …As established in the discussion at [[oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao laws]]. The problem is not copyright, but the issue of what belongs in a Wikipedia and what does not. (Please read the section "[[#Answer form Allbooks|Answer form Allbooks]]" on this talk page.) - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໑໘:໑໗, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
 
== ກົດໝາຍລາວບໍ່ຄວນຢູ່ວິກິພີເດຍ ==
 
ສະບາຍດີ ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າຂໍອະນຸຍາດສະຫຼຸບຂໍ້ຄວາມທີ່ທ່ານ dcljr ຂຽນໄວ້ທາງເທິງ. ກະລຸນາຢຸດຂຽນ ແລະ ລຶບບົດຄວາມທີ່ມີກົດໝາຍລາວ ເຊິ່ງທ່ານໄດ້ກ່າຍມາ. ເນື້ອຫາເຫຼົ່ານີ້ແມ່ນ ບໍ່ເໝາະສົມກັບວິກິພີເດຍ. ຂໍຂອບໃຈ. --[[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Alifshinobi|Alifshinobi]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Alifshinobi|talk]]) ໐໐:໕໐, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
 
== Answer form Allbooks ==
I think all of you can read Lao even you try not to use Lao in my talk page.
You are not admin so I can post anything that I want to. And you should know that Laos government supports me.
Read [[ຄວາມຮູ້]] and you will understand. Laos law can add to any open websites because Laos government supports.
And Laos laws are in Lao language so that they should be in lo.wikipedia.org.
: (I am now going to assume you read English well enough to understand this message.) Speaking only for myself, I do not, in fact, read Lao. I am relying on Google Translate to understand any Lao text I come across. Secondly, you are correct that I am not an admin. However, you are ''wrong'' if you think that you can post "anything" you want to this wiki simply because it has no admins. [[m:Stewards|Stewards]] can perform administrative actions (including blocking users) on wikis with no admins. If you continue to create pages in this wiki (Wikipedia) that belong instead in Wikisource, you may find yourself blocked from editing, at least temporarily. However, ''that doesn't need to happen'' because you can simply '''post those legal texts in the Wikimedia wiki where they belong, which is [[oldwikisource:|the Multilingual Wikisource]]''' (i.e., the Wikisource for languages that do not currently have their own standalone wiki). Simply put: not all Lao text belongs in the Lao Wikipedia; only Lao ''encyclopedia articles'' belong here. Previously published "source texts", like laws, belong in Wikisource. Now, if lo.wikisource.org existed, then ''that'' would be the place for Lao legal texts. But there is no lo.wikisource.org, therefore they belong at [[oldwikisource:|wikisource.org]]. - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໐໕:໒໖, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
:: For more background information about the Wikimedia Foundation and its wikis, please see [[:en:Wikimedia Foundation]] (especially the "[[:en:Wikimedia Foundation#Content projects|Content projects]]" section of that article) and [[:en:Wikisource]]. - [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|dcljr]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Dcljr|talk]]) ໐໕:໕໒, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
 
My posts are Lao language so they should be here lo.wikipedia.org. This is what I will go on doing.
:No. This is an encyclopedia, for encyclopedic articles. We have a project specifically for content like the ones you're uploading: [[oldwikisource:Main Page|Wikisource]]. You cannot add anything you want to this project simply because it's in Lao. Thank you, [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Vermont|Vermont]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Vermont|talk]]) ໑໓:໐໕, ໑໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
 
'''Comment:''' Lao Wikipedia would be the place for the encyclopaedia articles about the laws. Wikisource is the place for the laws themselves. Interwiki links would and should be created between articles here, and the published works at Wikisource. That is how it applies on all the wikis, in all languages.<p>We would like to work with you to have these appropriately located, and we would like to do it cooperatively, for those that you have added previously, and for any further laws. In the absence of local administrators, the global administrators (like myself) are here to help coordinate. So will you please work with us to have these relocated. Thanks. [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Billinghurst|Billinghurst]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Billinghurst|talk]]) ໐໔:໐໗, ໑໙ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
 
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Stop me if you can from [[Allbooks]]
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:loWP is an an encyclopaedia, all other content will be removed. If would be appreciated if you can work with us to have contributions within scope. There are sister wikis that exist for alternate content, and you should work with those communities to contribute to their scopes. [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Billinghurst|Billinghurst]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Billinghurst|talk]]) ໐໒:໑໘, ໒໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)
:You are welcome to continue contributing with Lao laws (and maybe other published, Public Domain Lao texts) [[:oldwikisource:Main Page/ລາວ|here]]. [[ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[ສົນທະນາຂອງຜູ້ໃຊ້:Ankry|talk]]) ໐໘:໐໘, ໒໘ ເມສາ ໒໐໑໙ (UTC)